Two Nice Interviews

NPR/WBUR On Point, with Tom Ashbrook: He’s a great and open-minded interviewer, and he undergoes an interesting journey over the course of the show.

BBC Outriders, with Jamilla Knowles. She’s web smart and doesn’t patronize her audience (the way many hosts feel the need to do when talking about tek-no-lo-gee, and Jamilla actually read and thought deeply the whole book before we spoke.